{"id":208,"date":"2003-07-29T10:25:00","date_gmt":"2003-07-29T09:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/blog\/hey-wa-s-n-eigentlich-hip\/"},"modified":"2023-12-18T08:50:12","modified_gmt":"2023-12-18T07:50:12","slug":"hey-wa-s-n-eigentlich-hip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2003\/07\/hey-wa-s-n-eigentlich-hip\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey, wa\u2019s\u2019n eigentlich HIP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Was ist HIP? Nur nicht &uuml;berraschen lassen, auch in der so genannten E-Musik gibt es die Hipness. HIP meint &ldquo;historical informed performance&rdquo;, also wenn sich zum Beispiel ein heutiger Schlagers&auml;nger Schlaghosen anziehen w&uuml;rde (wie? macht der? &#8211; o weh) oder Lance Amstrong zur Ehre des 100-J&auml;hrigen Jubil&auml;ums der Tour de France mit einem Laufrad antreten w&uuml;rde. In der Newsgroup <a href=\"news:\/\/de.rec.musik.klassik\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">de.rec.musik.klassik<\/a> wird mal wieder hei&szlig; und heftig dar&uuml;ber gestritten. Da schrieb ich dann nach einer Weile, als es auch schon ums Rauchen und um Kugelschreiber ging und Begriffe wie Darm und Hammer l&auml;ngst eingef&uuml;hrt waren: <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Was ist HIP? Nur nicht &uuml;berraschen lassen, auch in der so genannten E-Musik gibt es die Hipness. HIP meint &ldquo;historical informed performance&rdquo;, also wenn sich zum Beispiel ein heutiger Schlagers&auml;nger Schlaghosen anziehen w&uuml;rde (wie? macht der? &#8211; o weh) oder Lance Amstrong zur Ehre des 100-J&auml;hrigen Jubil&auml;ums der Tour de France mit einem Laufrad antreten w&uuml;rde. In der Newsgroup <a href=\"news:\/\/de.rec.musik.klassik\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">de.rec.musik.klassik<\/a> wird mal wieder hei&szlig; und heftig dar&uuml;ber gestritten. Da schrieb ich dann nach einer Weile, als es auch schon ums Rauchen und um Kugelschreiber ging und Begriffe wie Darm und Hammer l&auml;ngst eingef&uuml;hrt waren: <\/p>\n<p class=\"rteindent1\"><i>Nein, ich f&auml;nde nur, es w&auml;re wichtig einzusehen, dass es &ldquo;das&rdquo; Werk an sich nicht gibt und somit &ldquo;die&rdquo; Auff&uuml;hrung an sich eine Illusion ist. Ganz gleich, ob mit alten oder neuen Saiten. Der Purist m&uuml;sste daraus die Konsequenz ziehen, gar nicht mehr Auff&uuml;hrungen zuzulassen, weil sie zwingend ungen&uuml;gend sind oder dieses &ldquo;Problem&rdquo; durch die Vielheit der Interpretationsversuche zu w&uuml;rdigen. <\/p>\n<p> Wehe, es findet mal jemand heraus, dass Mozart alle seine Klavierst&uuml;cke f&uuml;r kaputtes Klavier komponiert hat, wo der Hammer daneben haut, Saiten gerissen und\/oder verstimmt sind &#8211; oder mit mindestens 1,2 Promille Alkoholisierung (durch bleihaltigen Rotwein aus dem Spar-Markt um die Ecke) gespielt und komponiert hat. Lauter torkelnde Dirigenten-Pianisten sehe ich vor mir \ud83d\ude09 und H&ouml;rer, die in HIP-Konzert erst einmal abgef&uuml;llt werden. 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Nur nicht &uuml;berraschen lassen, auch in der so genannten E-Musik gibt es die Hipness. 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