{"id":255,"date":"2003-09-18T07:10:00","date_gmt":"2003-09-18T06:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/blog\/ein-stein-vom-mond-fragmente-der-neunten-sinfonie-von-bruckner\/"},"modified":"2023-12-18T08:50:11","modified_gmt":"2023-12-18T07:50:11","slug":"ein-stein-vom-mond-fragmente-der-neunten-sinfonie-von-bruckner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/ein-stein-vom-mond-fragmente-der-neunten-sinfonie-von-bruckner\/","title":{"rendered":"Ein Stein vom Mond \u0096 Fragmente der neunten Sinfonie von Bruckner"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"254\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wittgenstein-noch-einmal\/attachment-bruckner\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?fit=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"150,150\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Bruckner\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?fit=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" alignright size-full wp-image-254\" hspace=\"5\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bruckner\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/>Diese Form der sprachlichen und dann musikalischen Ann&auml;herung scheint mir in der Tat ang<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"254\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wittgenstein-noch-einmal\/attachment-bruckner\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?fit=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"150,150\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Bruckner\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?fit=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" alignright size-full wp-image-254\" hspace=\"5\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/09\/20030917-cd-bruckner-harnoncourt.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bruckner\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/>Diese Form der sprachlichen und dann musikalischen Ann&auml;herung scheint mir in der Tat angemessen. Man hat dies unter den vielversprechenden Titel \u0084Wie ein Stein vom Mond\u0093 gestellt, und damit auch an Kubricks \u00842001 \u0096 A Space Odyssey\u0093 verwiesen, gewiss ein schwerer Eindruck und Einwurf, aber nicht ganz falsch. Die Fragmente, die Harnoncourt zusammenstellte sind von ungeheurem Ausdruck. Die Musik klingt teils in der Tat kubisch, eckig, unausgeglichen. So richtige sanfte Linien und Ein- und Ausschw&uuml;nge wird man nur wenig finden. Das mag Sinn und Ausdruck des dritten Satzes, des \u0084Adagio. Langsam; feierlich\u0093 gewesen sein. Hier ist zu Beginn in einem langen Crescendo das Telos schroff und nicht gar. Ja, die Bewegungen der weitspr&uuml;ngigen Motive sind wie grundlos in die Ferne schweifend. Das zweite Thema wirkt zu Beginn beseelt, wird aber von der Exposition des Ausdruck zu Beginn eingefangen und kann sich nicht f&uuml;r sich selbst emanzipieren. Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob das in der Endfassung so geblieben w&auml;re. Der Satz wirkt einfach, so wie er ausgef&uuml;hrt ist, irgendwie b&ouml;sartig. Auch der dritte Themenkomplex aus einer Art Choral gebildet hat schlimme H&auml;rten, die in den derben Dissonanzen der Trompeten gegen Ende kulminieren. Man m&ouml;ge mir verzeihen, aber das ist ein unerh&ouml;rter Bruckner, der zwar nach Bruckner klingt, aber doch in einer so ungemilderten Fassung, dass einem das Nachfolgen schwer f&auml;llt. Die neunte Sinfonie ist ja insgesamt kein leichtes Ding. Die Charaktere der einzelnen S&auml;tze sind aber klar artikuliert. In den Fragmenten scheinen sich die zuvor exponierten Charaktere insgesamt zu durchdringen. Das ist meines Erachtens eben nicht gelungen und wirkt auf mich einfach unsauber.<\/p>\n<p>Von der Aufnahme her problematisch aber auch, dass eine Passage mit den den Dissonanzen der Trompeten bei der Version in Track 2 am Ende nicht identisch gespielt ist mit der Gegen&uuml;berstellung des gemilderten mit dem \u0084originalen\u0093, die Harnoncourt in Track 3 nacheinander spielt. Wie auch immer, diese Fragmente sind faszinierend und wundersch&ouml;n gespielt. F&uuml;r jeden Liebhaber der Musik Bruckners ein absolutes Muss \u0096 bis zur n&auml;chsten Einspielung wenigstens.<\/p>\n<p><i><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"shariff\"><ul class=\"shariff-buttons theme-white orientation-horizontal buttonsize-small\"><li class=\"shariff-button mastodon shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#563ACC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/s2f.kytta.dev\/?text=Ein%20Stein%20vom%20Mond%20%C2%96%20Fragmente%20der%20neunten%20Sinfonie%20von%20Bruckner https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2Fein-stein-vom-mond-fragmente-der-neunten-sinfonie-von-bruckner%2F\" title=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; background-color:#6364FF; color:#6364FF\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"shariff-icon\" style=\"fill:#6364FF\"><svg width=\"75\" height=\"79\" viewBox=\"0 0 75 79\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M37.813-.025C32.462-.058 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