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&#8211; Die Zukunft ist uns verborgen. &#8211; Aber denkt der Astronom so, wenn er eine Sonnenfinsternis berechnet? <sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophische Untersuchungen, Ffm 1977, S. 358.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So hat es der Wittgenstein mal gefragt. Und mich verbl\u00fcfft, unversehends. <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Wenn ein L\u00f6we sprechen k\u00f6nnte, wir w\u00fcrden ihn nicht verstehen. <sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000003db80000000000000000_2931-2\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\">Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophische Untersuchungen, Ffm 1977, S. 358.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Ebenso. Und geht es mir nicht so beim H\u00f6ren von Musik auch? Gerade etwas Skrjabin. 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&#8211; Die Zukunft ist uns verborgen. &#8211; Aber denkt der Astronom so, wenn er eine Sonnenfinsternis berechnet? So hat es der Wittgenstein mal gefragt. Und mich verbl\u00fcfft, unversehends. Wenn ein L\u00f6we sprechen k\u00f6nnte, wir w\u00fcrden ihn nicht verstehen. Ebenso. Und geht es mir nicht so beim H\u00f6ren von Musik auch? 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