{"id":2997,"date":"2011-06-24T18:08:07","date_gmt":"2011-06-24T17:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/zettelkasten\/adorno-contra-luhmann\/"},"modified":"2023-12-18T08:44:17","modified_gmt":"2023-12-18T07:44:17","slug":"adorno-contra-luhmann","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2011\/06\/adorno-contra-luhmann\/","title":{"rendered":"Adorno contra Luhmann"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mein Weltbild s\u00fcrzt gerade ein. Ich dachte bislang immer, nur die Adorniten \/ Adornisten \/ Adornioten haben einen an der Waffel. Jetzt konnte ich einmal ins Aquarium der Luhmann-Fische schauen. 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