{"id":3186,"date":"2012-12-03T15:22:08","date_gmt":"2012-12-03T14:22:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/zettelkasten\/trolldiskussion-vollendete-trollversuche\/"},"modified":"2023-12-18T08:44:00","modified_gmt":"2023-12-18T07:44:00","slug":"trolldiskussion-vollendete-trollversuche","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/trolldiskussion-vollendete-trollversuche\/","title":{"rendered":"Trolldiskussion \u2013 Vollendete Trollversuche"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Trolle st\u00f6ren auch den Diskussionsgrund, das hei\u00dft, sie sind selbst Trolle als Autoren.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Ich habe den Faden bei der Trolldiskussion bei <a href=\"http:\/\/differentia.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kusanowsky<\/a> verloren. Darf man bei dem Thema aber auch. Ich bemerke gerade ein Ph\u00e4nomen, das, galube ich, selten zu beobachten ist. Trolle st\u00f6ren die Diskussion, mag sein und das mag notwendig sein oder nicht. 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