{"id":3318,"date":"2014-01-28T08:16:07","date_gmt":"2014-01-28T07:16:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/zettelkasten\/ein-frage-herr-luhmann\/"},"modified":"2023-12-20T08:58:29","modified_gmt":"2023-12-20T07:58:29","slug":"ein-frage-herr-luhmann","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2014\/01\/ein-frage-herr-luhmann\/","title":{"rendered":"Eine Frage, Herr Luhmann!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ich hab da mal &#8216;ne Frage, Herr Luhmann. Ihr Verlag, vielleicht sogar Sie selbst schreiben auf den Klappentext zu &#8220;Die Kunst der Gesellschaft&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eNiemand sonst macht das, was sie macht.\u201c<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Das stimmt wahrscheinlich. Aber das f\u00fchrt mich zu der Frage, wie sehr oder wenig abgeschlossen ihre Sammlung &#8220;Der\/Die\/Das \u2026 der Gesellschaft\u201c ist. Sie haben die Kunst, die Wirtschaft, die Gesellschaft, das Recht, die Wissenschaft, die Politik, die Religion, das Erziehungssystem der Geselllschaft sich angesehen. Wahrlich eine stolze Reihe.<\/p>\n<p>Aber irgendwie auch akademisch. Gerade so, als ob sie durch den Campus ihrer Universit\u00e4t gegangen w\u00e4ren und zu jedem Haus auf dem Campus ein Text geschrieben h\u00e4tten. In Ihrer n\u00e4heren Umgebung waren aber offensichtlich keine Physiker, Chemiker, Mathematiker und auch keiner Mediziner. Auch hier gilt doch \u201eNiemand macht, wa sie machen.\u201c Ebenso machen Sie einen weiten Bogen um die Philosophie, aber auch weitere andere Disziplinen.<\/p>\n<p>Man k\u00f6nnte sagen: Okay, das wird mit der Wissenschaft der Gesellschaft erledigt. Aber was ist mit unk\u00fcnstlerischer Kunst, es gibt ja nicht nur Picasso sodern auch Dieter Bohlen. Was ist mit Kultur im weiteren Sinn, mit Mode, mit St\u00e4dtebau, mit Prostitution, mit dem Ich?<\/p>\n<p>Sicher ein ganz dummer Fragenkatalog? Wenn aber nicht, fehlen dann diese Werke im Werkverzeichnis, hat die Zeit nicht gereicht? 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