{"id":3416,"date":"2014-12-19T22:42:37","date_gmt":"2014-12-19T21:42:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/zettelkasten\/wenn-schon-bologna-dann-richtig\/"},"modified":"2023-12-18T11:52:30","modified_gmt":"2023-12-18T10:52:30","slug":"wenn-schon-bologna-dann-richtig","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2014\/12\/wenn-schon-bologna-dann-richtig\/","title":{"rendered":"Wenn schon Bologna, dann richtig."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dann war das noch die Idee der Deutschen Gesellschaft f\u00fcr Psychologie, dass den Bachelor-Absolventen im Fach Psychologie auch der Master-Studiengang offenstehen sollte. Schaffen die Unis aber nicht &#8211; und das grenzt an Studienbetrug.<\/p>\n<p>Man fragt sich dann doch: 6 Semester Psychologie, vollgpfropft mit wenig Studium und viel Pr\u00fcfungen: wie soll das gehen, was soll dabei herauskommen. In anderen F\u00e4chern ist das sicher nicht viel anders. Heute noch ein R\u00e4tsel, auf welchem Mist das gewachsen ist. Es ist so absurd:<\/p>\n<p>Abiturszeit-Verk\u00fcrzung auf 12 Jahre, Studium auf 3 Jahre. Da ist man mit 20 bis 21 Jahren theoretisch fertiig und hat doch nur einen Bachelor. Mit 21 aber war Adorno bereits promoviert. Und der war auch nicht ein D\u00fcnnbrettbohrer, also eher weniger.<\/p>\n<p>In der Tat, das w\u00e4re ein echter Ausweg: Statt nach drei Jahren den Bachelor, haben die alle eine Promotion in der Tasche. Wie man das nennt, ist doch eigentlich egal. Und das Problem mit den schlechten Doktortiteln h\u00e4tte sich auch erledigt.<\/p>\n<p>Wenn schon Bologna, dann aber richtig.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>PS 1: Denn das Absurde ist doch dabei auch: Kein Arbeitgeber w\u00fcrde sich auf die Werte der Studienergebnisse verlassen. Sie sind bestenfalls ein Indiz, im anderen Fall nur absurd, da unvergleichlich und aussageirrelevant.<\/li>\n<li>PS 2: V\u00f6llig ratlos dagegen bin ich gegen\u00fcber der Willf\u00e4hrigkeit des Universit\u00e4tsk\u00f6rpers, der diese Reform \u00fcberhaupt hat zugelassen. 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Schaffen die Unis aber nicht &#8211; und das grenzt an Studienbetrug. Man fragt sich dann doch: 6 Semester Psychologie, vollgpfropft mit wenig Studium und viel Pr\u00fcfungen: wie soll das gehen, was soll dabei [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"shariff\"><ul class=\"shariff-buttons theme-white orientation-horizontal buttonsize-small\"><li class=\"shariff-button mastodon shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#563ACC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/s2f.kytta.dev\/?text=Wenn%20schon%20Bologna%2C%20dann%20richtig. https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2014%2F12%2Fwenn-schon-bologna-dann-richtig%2F\" title=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; background-color:#6364FF; color:#6364FF\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"shariff-icon\" style=\"fill:#6364FF\"><svg width=\"75\" height=\"79\" viewBox=\"0 0 75 79\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M37.813-.025C32.462-.058 27.114.13 21.79.598c-8.544.621-17.214 5.58-20.203 13.931C-1.12 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