{"id":3426,"date":"2015-01-14T08:26:35","date_gmt":"2015-01-14T07:26:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/wordpress\/zettelkasten\/gel-und-kunst\/"},"modified":"2023-12-19T16:50:27","modified_gmt":"2023-12-19T15:50:27","slug":"gel-und-kunst","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2015\/01\/gel-und-kunst\/","title":{"rendered":"Geld und Kunst"},"content":{"rendered":"<ul>\n<li><strong>Geld macht taub.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Geld spielt \u00fcberall erste Violine.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Geld macht arm und reich, der Tod macht alle gleich<\/strong>. [D\u00e4n.: Penge skille os ad, men d\u00f8den gi\u00f8r os liige.]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geld ist die gr\u00f6sste Kunst. <\/strong>\u2013 Par\u00f6miakon, 2689.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Die beste Kunst ist all vmbsunst<\/strong>. \u2013 Henisch, 1470, 19.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Ehrliche Kunst bezahlt die Welt mit Dunst.<\/strong> [Lat.: Artibus honestis nullus in urbe locus, nulla emolumenta laborum. (Juvenal.) (Seybold, 39.)]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst bringt zuweilen Ruhm, aber selten Brot ins Haus.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst besteht, Reichthum zergeht.<\/strong> [Schwed.: Guld f\u00f6rg\u00e5r, konst best\u00e5r. (Grubb, 422.)]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst ist besser denn Habe.<\/strong> [It.: Una buon arte val per una buona possessione. (Pazzaglia, 18.) &#8211; Schwed.: Konst \u00e4r meer \u00e4n \u00e4gor. (Grubb, 422.)]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst geht nicht betteln.<\/strong> [Frz.: L&#8217;homme habile gagne son pain partout.]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst fischt oft umsunst. <\/strong>[Schwed.: Konsten sl\u00e4\u00e4r offta feelt. (Grubb, 421.)]<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst geht nach Brot. <\/strong>\u2013 Latendorf, II, 20; Eiselein, 402; K\u00f6rte, 3637; Sutor, 149; Braun, I, 2091; Briefe aus Berlin (Hanau 1832), II, 95. [Liess Lessing in seinem Trauerspiel Emilia Galotti den Maler Conti sagen. Vgl. \u00fcber dies Sprichwort auch Briefe aus Berlin, Hanau 1832, II, 95. Wenn nur die Kunst dabei nicht selbst zum Brote, zum hausbackenen Brote wird, und das Brot zur Kunst. Das sei Sorge der K\u00fcnstler; \u00bbdenn\u00ab, sagt Schiller, \u00bbdas Publikum zieht die Kunst nicht herab, der K\u00fcnstler zieht das Publikum herab; und zu allen Zeiten, wo die Kunst verfallen ist, verfiel sie durch die K\u00fcnstler.\u00ab (Schiller, Einleitung zur Braut von Messina.) \u2013 \u00bbDie Kunst geht immer noch nach Brot, Zu b\u00fcssen ihre Hungersnoth. Willst aber einen K\u00fcnstler suchen, Lauf&#8217; hinterdrein mit Wein und Kuchen.\u00ab (W. M\u00fcller, 80.)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Kunst kann man nicht kaufen.<\/strong> \u2013 Petri, II, 429; Simrock, 6082; K\u00f6rte, 3621; Lohrengel, I, 458; Braun, I, 2084; Masson, 222. Tunnicius (906): Kunst enkan men nicht kopen. (Est doctrina potens nullo mercabilis auro.) &#8211; Holl.: Kunst kan men niet koopen. (Harrebom\u00e9e, I, 458a.)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Viel K\u00fcnste lernen hat seine Noth; wenn man sie kann, so fehlt es an Brot. <\/strong>&#8211; Holl.: Kunsten leeren is verdriet; als men se kent, zoo acht men ze niet. (Harrebom\u00e9e, I, 458a.)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Viele K\u00fcnste sind vmbsonst. <\/strong>\u2013 Lehmann, II, 790, 73.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Wo f\u00fcr die Kunst kein Brot im Haus, da wandert sie aus. <\/strong>&#8211; Lat.: Ubi non merces, ibi nec ars est.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Aus dem Deutsches Sprichw\u00f6rter-Lexikon von Wander<\/p>\n<div class=\"shariff\"><ul class=\"shariff-buttons theme-white orientation-horizontal buttonsize-small\"><li class=\"shariff-button mastodon shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#563ACC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/s2f.kytta.dev\/?text=Geld%20und%20Kunst https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2015%2F01%2Fgel-und-kunst%2F\" title=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; background-color:#6364FF; color:#6364FF\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"shariff-icon\" style=\"fill:#6364FF\"><svg width=\"75\" height=\"79\" viewBox=\"0 0 75 79\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M37.813-.025C32.462-.058 27.114.13 21.79.598c-8.544.621-17.214 5.58-20.203 13.931C-1.12 23.318.408 32.622.465 41.65c.375 7.316.943 14.78 3.392 21.73 4.365 9.465 14.781 14.537 24.782 15.385 7.64.698 15.761-.213 22.517-4.026a54.1 54.1 0 0 0 .01-6.232c-6.855 1.316-14.101 2.609-21.049 1.074-3.883-.88-6.876-4.237-7.25-8.215-1.53-3.988 3.78-.43 5.584-.883 9.048 1.224 18.282.776 27.303-.462 7.044-.837 14.26-4.788 16.65-11.833 2.263-6.135 1.215-12.79 1.698-19.177.06-3.84.09-7.692-.262-11.52C72.596 7.844 63.223.981 53.834.684a219.453 219.453 0 0 0-16.022-.71zm11.294 12.882c5.5-.067 10.801 4.143 11.67 9.653.338 1.48.471 3 .471 4.515v21.088h-8.357c-.07-7.588.153-15.182-.131-22.765-.587-4.368-7.04-5.747-9.672-2.397-2.422 3.04-1.47 7.155-1.67 10.735v6.392h-8.307c-.146-4.996.359-10.045-.404-15.002-1.108-4.218-7.809-5.565-10.094-1.666-1.685 3.046-.712 6.634-.976 9.936v14.767h-8.354c.109-8.165-.238-16.344.215-24.5.674-5.346 5.095-10.389 10.676-10.627 4.902-.739 10.103 2.038 12.053 6.631.375 1.435 1.76 1.932 1.994.084 1.844-3.704 5.501-6.739 9.785-6.771.367-.044.735-.068 1.101-.073z\"\/><defs><linearGradient id=\"paint0_linear_549_34\" x1=\"37.0692\" y1=\"0\" x2=\"37.0692\" y2=\"79\" gradientUnits=\"userSpaceOnUse\"><stop stop-color=\"#6364FF\"\/><stop offset=\"1\" stop-color=\"#563ACC\"\/><\/linearGradient><\/defs><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"shariff-text\" style=\"color:#6364FF\">teilen<\/span>&nbsp;<\/a><\/li><li class=\"shariff-button bluesky shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#84c4ff\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/intent\/compose?text=Geld%20und%20Kunst https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2015%2F01%2Fgel-und-kunst%2F \" title=\"Bei Bluesky teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Bluesky teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; 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Geld spielt \u00fcberall erste Violine. Geld macht arm und reich, der Tod macht alle gleich. [D\u00e4n.: Penge skille os ad, men d\u00f8den gi\u00f8r os liige.] Geld ist die gr\u00f6sste Kunst. \u2013 Par\u00f6miakon, 2689. Die beste Kunst ist all vmbsunst. \u2013 Henisch, 1470, 19. Ehrliche Kunst bezahlt die Welt mit Dunst. [Lat.: Artibus [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"shariff\"><ul class=\"shariff-buttons theme-white orientation-horizontal buttonsize-small\"><li class=\"shariff-button mastodon shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#563ACC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/s2f.kytta.dev\/?text=Geld%20und%20Kunst https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2015%2F01%2Fgel-und-kunst%2F\" title=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; background-color:#6364FF; color:#6364FF\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"shariff-icon\" style=\"fill:#6364FF\"><svg width=\"75\" height=\"79\" viewBox=\"0 0 75 79\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M37.813-.025C32.462-.058 27.114.13 21.79.598c-8.544.621-17.214 5.58-20.203 13.931C-1.12 23.318.408 32.622.465 41.65c.375 7.316.943 14.78 3.392 21.73 4.365 9.465 14.781 14.537 24.782 15.385 7.64.698 15.761-.213 22.517-4.026a54.1 54.1 0 0 0 .01-6.232c-6.855 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Januar 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Ich glaube, es gilt ein grundlegendes Missverst\u00e4ndnis aufzul\u00f6sen. Recht und Kunst kommen nicht zur Deckung. Gerade vorausschreitende Kunst ist h\u00e4ufig nicht mit Mitteln des Rechts zu fassen. Offenbar sind ja Kunstgegenst\u00e4nde wie das \"Schwarze Quadrat\" von Malewitsch oder Fountain von Marcel Duchamp nicht durch das Urheberrecht als Werke gesch\u00fctzt, so\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Angriff auf \u2026&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Angriff auf \u2026","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/category\/angriffauf\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Ein schwarzes Quadrat vor grauem Hintergrund. 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Im Prinzip geht es dabei um den sch\u00f6nen Schein der Lebensillusionen. Fr\u00fcher nannte man es die rosarote Brille, durch die man sich die Welt sch\u00f6n sieht. Das Internet potenziert diese Illusionen, die Tellerw\u00e4scher-Zum-Million\u00e4r-Illusion, die des Heldseins-F\u00fcr-Minuten. Und es scheint auch so verf\u00fchrerisch wie\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;die Kunst&quot;","block_context":{"text":"die Kunst","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/category\/angriffauf\/die-kunst\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Das Leben, deine Zukunft.","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/2015\/11\/screenshot-www-facebook-com-2015-11-18-19-15-13.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":8792,"url":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2019\/01\/das-leben-aendern-nicht-die-kunst\/","url_meta":{"origin":3426,"position":3},"title":"Das Leben \u00e4ndern, nicht die Kunst","author":"der huflaikhan","date":"10. 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