{"id":8305,"date":"2005-09-10T15:58:10","date_gmt":"2005-09-10T13:58:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musikunrat.de\/?p=1266"},"modified":"2005-09-10T15:58:10","modified_gmt":"2005-09-10T13:58:10","slug":"fichten-ueber-die-denkfreiheit-und-den-menschen-als-eigentum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2005\/09\/fichten-ueber-die-denkfreiheit-und-den-menschen-als-eigentum\/","title":{"rendered":"Fichten! [\u00dcber die Denkfreiheit und den Menschen als Eigentum]"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>&#8220;Der Mensch kann weder ererbt, noch verkauft, noch verschenkt werden; er kann niemandes Eigenthum seyn, weil er sein eigenes Eigenthum ist, und bleiben muss.&#8221;<sup id=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-1\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">Fichte: Zur\u00fcckforderung der Denkfreiheit. Quellen Philosophie: Deutscher Idealismus, S. 9159 (vgl. Fichte-W Bd. 6, S. 11)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1267\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1267\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/breakdance_swr.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1267\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/breakdance_swr.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Breakdance. Foto: Hufner\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1267\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Breakdance. Foto: Hufner<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Was freilich niemanden anficht, ihn wie anderes nur unter dem Aspekt der Verwertung zu betrachten.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Den K\u00f6rper der Menschen zu unterjochen ist euch ein leichtes; ihr k\u00f6nnt seine F\u00fcsse in den Stock, seine H\u00e4nde in Fesseln legen, ihr k\u00f6nnt auch allenfalls durch Furcht des Hungers oder des Todes ihn verhindern zu reden, was er nicht reden soll. Aber ihr k\u00f6nnt doch nicht immer mit dem Stocke, oder mit Fesseln, oder mit Henkersknechten gegenw\u00e4rtig seyn &#8211; auch eure Sp\u00fcrer k\u00f6nnen nicht allenthalben seyn; und eine solche m\u00fchsame Regierung w\u00fcrde euch doch gar keine Zeit zu menschlichen Vergn\u00fcgungen \u00fcbrig lassen. Ihr m\u00fcsst also auf ein Mittel denken, ihn sicherer und zuverl\u00e4ssiger zu unterjochen, damit er auch ausser dem Stocke und der Fessel nicht anders athme, als ihr ihm winktet. L\u00e4hmt das erste Princip der Selbstth\u00e4tigkeit in ihm, seinen Gedanken; untersteht er sich nicht mehr anders, als ihr es ihm, mittelbar oder unmittelbar, durch seinen Beichtvater, oder durch eure Religions-Edicte befehlt, zu denken: so ist er ganz die Maschine, die ihr haben wollt, und nun k\u00f6nnt ihr ihn nach Belieben brauchen.&#8221;<sup id=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-2\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"2\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"2\">Fichte: Zur\u00fcckforderung der Denkfreiheit. Quellen Philosophie: Deutscher Idealismus, S. 9175, (vgl. Fichte-W Bd. 6, S. 21-22)]<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In diese Richtung denn soll Politik wirken. Macht nur das Denken unbrauchbar. Die Menschen tun ihren Teil dann dazu. Das ist pervers genug. Lasst den Fichte nur fordern:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Mithin ist Nachforschen ins Unbegrenzte <i>unver\u00e4usserliches<\/i> Menschenrecht.&#8221;<sup id=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-3\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"3\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000004d0e0000000000000000_8305-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"3\">Fichte: Zur\u00fcckforderung der Denkfreiheit. Quellen Philosophie: Deutscher Idealismus, S. 9178, (vgl. 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