{"id":8549,"date":"2015-05-11T16:20:44","date_gmt":"2015-05-11T14:20:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nmz.de\/wm2014\/?p=1434"},"modified":"2015-05-11T16:20:44","modified_gmt":"2015-05-11T14:20:44","slug":"die-berliner-philharmoniker-waehlen-a-n","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2015\/05\/die-berliner-philharmoniker-waehlen-a-n\/","title":{"rendered":"Die Berliner Philharmoniker w\u00e4hlen vorl\u00e4ufig A. N."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Andreas von Notnagel.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4r8v8daJ4RA?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=de-DE&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Man sagte heute ja, in die engere Wahl bei der Wahl des kommenden Chefdirigenten der Berliner Philharmoniker k\u00e4men vor allem:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Mariss Jansons (jetzt schon zu alt und BR)<\/li>\n<li>Daniel Barenboim (schon wieder zu alt und Staatskapelle Berlin)<\/li>\n<li>Gustavo Dudamel (zu viele Haare, so wenig \u00e4sthetisches Gewicht, zu jung)<\/li>\n<li>Christian Thielemann (zu wenig h\u00fcbsch, zu peinlich) und<\/li>\n<li>Andris Nelsons (passt schon)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Bei <em>Jansons<\/em> und <em>Barenboim<\/em> wei\u00df man ja nicht einmal, ob sie 2018 \u00fcberhaupt noch erleben. Die fallen aus, sonst k\u00f6nnte man auch bestimmt Pierre Boulez vorfahren oder Nikolaus Harnoncourt oder Kurt Masur oder Zubin Mehta oder <del>Dieter<\/del> Michael Gielen oder der Gro\u00dfneffe vom Wilhelm, der Misha Mengelberg.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FEmPEn1eK6Y?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=de-DE&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>Dudamel<\/em> steht nicht zur Disposition, der ist ja noch am Notenlesenlernen und K\u00e4mmen. Eigentlich vollkommen vollkommen und antizyklisch perfekt w\u00e4re <em>Christian Thielemann<\/em>: Der Karajan f\u00fcr die Gestrigen. Dann gibts wieder feierliche Konzerte, Jeans im Konzertsaal werden wieder verboten. Digital Concert Hall kann geschlossen werden.<\/p>\n<p><em>Peter E\u00f6tv\u00f6s<\/em> geht ja auch nicht mehr, der muss das SWR-Fusionsorchester mit leichter Muse k\u00fcssen.<\/p>\n<p>Bleibt <em>Andris Nelsons<\/em>. Weil: Darum. Und weil <em>Yannick D\u00edngs-S\u00edng<\/em> hat zu viele Accents im Namen. Mein pers\u00f6nlicher Favorit w\u00e4re ja wer ganz anderes: <a href=\"http:\/\/joanamallwitz.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Joana Mallwitz<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/vimeo.com\/114136852<\/p>\n<p>Nelsons hin, Nelsons her.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/kleinanzeigen.ebay.de\/anzeigen\/s-anzeige\/baerliner-philhormoniker-suchen-den-besten-dirigenten-der-welt\/308645743-292-3520?utm_source=berlinonline.de&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=coop_berlinonline\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Suchanzeige der B\u00e4rliner Philhormoniker<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/mehrlicht.twoday.net\/stories\/1022429869\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mehr Licht von Keuk<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ja.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>PS:<\/strong> Man muss ja mal sagen, warum soll man nicht der Ergebnis einfach vorwegnehmen und den BP den Spa\u00df rauben, das gro\u00dfe Ding zu drehen. Boaah. Was eine Show! Und wer wei\u00df, nur wer wagt, der auch vorwegnimmt. Oder so in der Art. Das Netz ist manchmal einfach zu durchschaubar.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Andreas von Notnagel. Man sagte heute ja, in die engere Wahl bei der Wahl des kommenden Chefdirigenten der Berliner Philharmoniker k\u00e4men vor allem: Mariss Jansons (jetzt schon zu alt und BR) Daniel Barenboim (schon wieder zu alt und Staatskapelle Berlin) Gustavo Dudamel (zu viele Haare, so wenig \u00e4sthetisches Gewicht, zu jung) Christian Thielemann (zu wenig 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