{"id":9989,"date":"2024-07-27T11:25:35","date_gmt":"2024-07-27T09:25:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/?p=9989"},"modified":"2024-07-27T11:25:35","modified_gmt":"2024-07-27T09:25:35","slug":"sage-und-schreibe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kritische-masse.de\/logbuch\/2024\/07\/sage-und-schreibe\/","title":{"rendered":"Sage und schreibe \u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"shariff shariff-align-left shariff-widget-align-left\"><ul class=\"shariff-buttons theme-white orientation-horizontal buttonsize-small\"><li class=\"shariff-button mastodon shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#563ACC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/s2f.kytta.dev\/?text=Sage%20und%20schreibe%20%E2%80%A6 https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2024%2F07%2Fsage-und-schreibe%2F\" title=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Mastodon teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; background-color:#6364FF; color:#6364FF\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"shariff-icon\" style=\"fill:#6364FF\"><svg width=\"75\" height=\"79\" viewBox=\"0 0 75 79\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M37.813-.025C32.462-.058 27.114.13 21.79.598c-8.544.621-17.214 5.58-20.203 13.931C-1.12 23.318.408 32.622.465 41.65c.375 7.316.943 14.78 3.392 21.73 4.365 9.465 14.781 14.537 24.782 15.385 7.64.698 15.761-.213 22.517-4.026a54.1 54.1 0 0 0 .01-6.232c-6.855 1.316-14.101 2.609-21.049 1.074-3.883-.88-6.876-4.237-7.25-8.215-1.53-3.988 3.78-.43 5.584-.883 9.048 1.224 18.282.776 27.303-.462 7.044-.837 14.26-4.788 16.65-11.833 2.263-6.135 1.215-12.79 1.698-19.177.06-3.84.09-7.692-.262-11.52C72.596 7.844 63.223.981 53.834.684a219.453 219.453 0 0 0-16.022-.71zm11.294 12.882c5.5-.067 10.801 4.143 11.67 9.653.338 1.48.471 3 .471 4.515v21.088h-8.357c-.07-7.588.153-15.182-.131-22.765-.587-4.368-7.04-5.747-9.672-2.397-2.422 3.04-1.47 7.155-1.67 10.735v6.392h-8.307c-.146-4.996.359-10.045-.404-15.002-1.108-4.218-7.809-5.565-10.094-1.666-1.685 3.046-.712 6.634-.976 9.936v14.767h-8.354c.109-8.165-.238-16.344.215-24.5.674-5.346 5.095-10.389 10.676-10.627 4.902-.739 10.103 2.038 12.053 6.631.375 1.435 1.76 1.932 1.994.084 1.844-3.704 5.501-6.739 9.785-6.771.367-.044.735-.068 1.101-.073z\"\/><defs><linearGradient id=\"paint0_linear_549_34\" x1=\"37.0692\" y1=\"0\" x2=\"37.0692\" y2=\"79\" gradientUnits=\"userSpaceOnUse\"><stop stop-color=\"#6364FF\"\/><stop offset=\"1\" stop-color=\"#563ACC\"\/><\/linearGradient><\/defs><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"shariff-text\" style=\"color:#6364FF\">teilen<\/span>&nbsp;<\/a><\/li><li class=\"shariff-button bluesky shariff-nocustomcolor\" style=\"background-color:#84c4ff\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/intent\/compose?text=Sage%20und%20schreibe%20%E2%80%A6 https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kritische-masse.de%2Flogbuch%2F2024%2F07%2Fsage-und-schreibe%2F \" title=\"Bei Bluesky teilen\" aria-label=\"Bei Bluesky teilen\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" class=\"shariff-link\" style=\"; 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Aber ich komme immer wieder zu dem Ergebnis, dass man nichts mehr sagen kann. G\u00e4be es etwas, was man sagen k\u00f6nnte, k\u00f6nnte man es trotzdem nicht sagen. Was man sagt, bezeugt, dass man es nicht sagen kann. Man k\u00f6nnte nur durchs Auslassen das sagen, was man sagen will, indem man es nicht sagt. Ja, genau. So m\u00fcsste man es schwurbeln. Irgendwer hat das bestimmt auch schon mal gesagt oder geschrieben, nur besser.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dazu hat Alfred D\u00f6blin folgende Meinung:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eEs hat mal einen gegeben, der hat eine Wurststulle gegessen, und wie sie im Magen war, hat sie sich besonnen und ist nochmal raufgekommen in den Hals und hat gesagt: war kein Mostrich bei! und dann ist sie erst richtig runtergegangen. 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